https://gist.github.com/jtl999/9e30067b1fd3e5bf37366e55a5248803. Press J to jump to the feed. . No other device has ever caused me . After all some 24 bit panels reproduce color so poorly that an 18 bit panel with good dithering will produce far better color. It's main benefit is in regard to angles and lack of IPS glow, due to the A-TW polarizer (in 1st gen models). Previously in a material I would use Pixel Depth Offset and Dither Temporal AA to blend objects as seen here. The strain w 1118 (Flybase . I'm looking into a possible solution that should allow you to disable dithering on WIndows/OS X and Linux with AMD graphics. You can definitely see them making a change when you turn the dithering off, as the test image they have changes, but when I record the screen with a screen recorder on my pc like OBS no change is happening in the recorded video. A soft diet. It also does nothing in reducing the pain. Been trying to setup an OS X virtual machine on my desktop so I can speed up development of my GPU driver fix for Macboks (so I don't have to borrow my mother's MBP). FRC # This works to frame the page in the Window. I'm thinking it's c) as I used to use a ASUS VE278Q monitor above 90% brightness to avoid PWM (vision got worse due to high brightness) and I know from the manual it uses a 6-bit TN panel and FRC (Temporal Dithering) and could see the "snow effect' almost always at Windows desktop using certain backgrounds. I contacted Apple support, and they said we can't disable temporal dithering, but they suggested changing the scaling of the display and the color profile. Grumble grumble. IIRC for such displays color depth checks are done to see if temporal dithering is needed to create the illusion of 8-bit colors. When the display panel does not have enough colors, the graphics card will emulate (fake) the missing colors by rapidly flickering between two colors (blue plus yellow equals green). By 1964 dither was being used in the modern sense described in this article. Display brightness is a major issue, and PWM can be related to that. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. And actually did buy one with the FHD (1080p) display. Samsung, LG, AUO, ). Temporal dithering (FRC - Frame Rate Control) FRC (Frame Rate Control) or temporal dithering, . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. file:///Users/sexynerds/Downloads/AN_057_Temporal_Dithering_on_macOS%20(1).pdf. The problem is that only a minority of the population seems to be severely affected. Immediately I felt a really bad nausea, and this inability to focus on words on the screen. if it's a 8 + 2 bit FRC monitor, make sure to run it at 8 bit and not 10 bit). You'd need to use a capture card/digital video analyzer to really know what the GPU is sending to the monitor. ryans Same can be done with open source Linux GPU drivers. Font anti-aliasing is a major issue for eye comfort, but there are other major and possibly minor issues. With the new screens that promise 'billions of colors' they don't actually offer a complete screen full of rich static pixels. In the beginning this was really bad for me. From reading online the culprit seems to be temporal dithering. Hey, chiming in here. This caused flicker which was known to be bad for eye strain, but with the advent of 100 and 120 Hz TV's this was greatly reduced and the picture looked a whole lot better. intensities that are integrated over time by a sensor (eye or camera) to produce the desired brightness value. It was written by this guy:https://ledstrain.org/u/lougro. u/BloodyHell619 have you found a solution to this problem? So if we find a promising git commit (some are not our issue, like ImageMagick), we can email the author, and ask what they know about temporal dithering on Android or other sources of flicker. Will a true 24bits display outperform a 18bits one in (2D) picture quality or is this difference neglectable? https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2011-October/012464.html, ryans Yes. This site is best viewed in a modern browser with JavaScript enabled. I have a feeling understanding all this is vital to understand possible eye strain effects of temporal dithering. The translation of pixels happens at a speed the eye can notice it, but some people get his/her neurological system stressed. No other device has ever caused me similar issues, and even now other devices (e.g. I appear not to notice anything on my Macbook Pro display, although that could be caused by, a) Me not knowing what to look for Somehow I was able to get the Dell factory image (Win 10) re-installed. I probably would part ways with Apple going forward for this. FastLED v2.1now includes automatic "temporal dithering" which helps preserve color and light when the brightness is turned down. Jun 20, 2022 #1 Hi all, Have been investigating some sources of eye strain and headaches with the PIxel 6, none of the PWM apps work for me, but it's been suggested that temporal dithering employed by the device might . Adjusting the brightness doesn't help. Aug 27, 2020 7:26 AM in response to Astrolabium Many of the source authors are Google employees. Apple may provide or recommend responses as a possible solution based on the information u/LTT-Glenwing quite a few other people are having this issue, which is one of the reasons to how I found out this is the cause. On the right, same animation, but rendered with FastLE. What might have caused this ? I wonder if this still holds true today and furthermore with the fact if the dithering is done in software (by graphics drivers) or hardware. For low to medium spatial frequen5-11 - cies, temporal sensitivity is bandpass with peak sen-c sitivity between 5-10 Hz, while for patterns above 4 ycles per degree temporal sensitivity becomes 3 lowpass.. Algorithms 3.1. If there's one thing I've learned on this forum is that our problem is largely unknown. Does anyone know of alternative drivers for Windows (that's not the VGA driver, since it doesn't support external monitor)? We developed a spatio-temporal model of the growing eye disc based on the regulatory interactions controlled by the signals Decapentaplegic (Dpp), Hedgehog (Hh) and the transcription factor Homothorax (Hth) and explored how the signaling patterns affect the movement of the MF and impact on eye disc growth. ryans No. So is this one of the reasons there's some thinking around here that refresh rates above 144Hz could ease strain for basic computing, not just gamers? After 3-4 months I have returned to this issue because the ability to focus or retain a workflow with this device is incredibly difficult. But they dodged my ticket and the questions I asked in such a way that has me believe something it's definitely wrong, but it seems the number of people struggling with it is too low to concern them. Sales and Injection therapy with a long lasting local anesthetic and a steroid, sarapin, or prolotherapy. It all depends on the individual TFT panels and how well they reproduce color or use dithering. My struggle with this new screen was to the extent that after using the computer for ~4 hours , it felt like I could see but my mind could no longer properly process what I was seeing! Both have resulted in eye strain issues whereas with my 5 year old cheaper monitor I have had no issues. The MRI showed "damage to the frontal cortex consistent with trauma caused by numerous sub-clinical seizures". Too bright of a display and/or a flickering display can fatigue the eyes really fast. And that leads to disbelief. Here is the above mentioned email to the amd-gfx list. Although I'm leaning towards the former rather than the latter. Apple disclaims any and all liability for the acts, Apple support advised me to leave feedback. All they do is display frames. From reading online the culprit seems to be temporal dithering. For more information, see Graphics card temporal dithering impact on a PCoIP Remote Workstation card (1087) To disable temporal dithering by editing the registry in Windows based drivers. It seems that NVIDIA has implemented some sort of temporal Dithering in all its RTX cards, and it's causing me severe eye strain and headaches. And their support claims that there is no dithering going on. This seems to be the case with Apple's M-series computers because if earlier there was an option to switch from "Billions of colors" to "Millions of colors" by using Stepane Madrau's SwitchResX then now it just shows "Billions of colors" as the only option: . That is, it is not: PWM, temporal dithering, correct ICC color profiles, or blue light/LED sensitivity. Better to get Intel, et al to fix the root cause if you ask me. And the eye strain / pain issue went away. I didn't just know it yet. This spatiotemporal dithering method takes advantage of both spatial and temporal dithering, bringing in an extension on the color depth and an improvement on the display quality without flicker problems. Open the AMD Catalyst Control Center from the host PC/workstation. I only started having problems when I recently got the new 13" 2020 MacBook Pro (Intel Iris Plus Graphics). https://ledstrain.org/d/1797-switchresx-developer-m1-mac-does-not-allow-8-bit-color. FRC), and Temporal dithering are available on supported devices. The FastLED temporal dithering will 'kick in' automatically as you lower the master brightness control. This gave me an idea to try to run a virtual machine on my computer: I have a Mac but I think it should work the same with a PC laptop with VirtualBox or Fusion or whatever else. Never seemed to bother me though. If you set the output to 8bpc, no temporal dithering is required as the . I'll try fishing my post and of my email sent box later. We must advocate for ourselves. Here's a video. After a while of watching or looking, either at desktop range or viewing from a bed say watching a show, I get this eye strain and this blotchiness and temporary lack of focus. Refunds. Thanks, that might be enough to push me towards iPhone 14 if I try another iPhone this generationwhich I probably will, even if I'd like to be content with my iPhone SE. All postings and use of the content on this site are subject to the. I've made an example of dithering using frame rate control but I preface it with the warning that it may be unsafe for those with epilepsy. If this trend is continuing the way it has, pretty soon we are out of options when it comes to purchasing a new device which does not get us eyestrain. My monitor is pretty old, it's an "LG FLATRON W2261VP". In UE5 nanite objects just turn grey when I apply this shader and regular objects create intense noise as seen in the attached gif. The nice thing is the it shows the email address of the person that committed the code (if you click on History, it's probably possible to access `git blame' somehow). iPad Air 2, iMac 2017, Sony Xperia phoneetc) don't cause me issues. I came to this idea when I was remotely couching an intern and had Teamviewer in full screen mode. More than a million books are available now via BitTorrent. At least with the Intel Iris graphics. They all show a basic video card to the guest OS. Is it possible that the FRC/temporal dithering used on 6 bit monitors to achieve an 8 bit color representation is the issue? I'd guess that amplitudes are lower as well. I hear temporal dithering can cause eyestrain and headaches. Temporal dithering is a technique used in displays to emulate more colors than the display can actually show. http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/beginner-needs-to-record-dignals-from-a-display-backlit/?all, https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2011-October/012464.html, https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2017-September/153449.html. other potential culprits?). Reinstalling the Dell factory image fixed the issue. 6. And it's contrast levels are so-so. vinkenvvt That source is quite old (~2004). Ask Apple to offer an accessibility option to disable temporal dithering. In posts #22 and #25 he talks about dithering and says that by analyzing the frequency spectrum one could see if (monitor panel's) temporal dithering is active. When the display panel does not have enough colors, the graphics card will emulate (fake) the missing colors by rapidly flickering between two colors (blue plus yellow equals green). Hey folks,I have an XPS 13. For more information about this format, please see the Archive Torrents collection. Graphics cards should not be using temporal dithering by default, as they can output high bit per channel with no problem. Our key idea is to exploit this "temporal dithering" of illumination, as observed by a high-speed cam-era. Other details: Splints/orthotics. We are in touch via the Internet and we already found that pulse width modulation (in display [back-]lights) and temporal dithering in graphics drivers and even monitor firmware are major reasons for eyestrain. Here is the culprit as far as I've gotten with little information and no solution: Based on the symptoms and collective user feedback it seems like the issue comes from temporal dithering. This disabled temporal dithering for Intel graphics cards. I upgraded the hard drive and had to install Windows 10. (Second comment precisely points out dithering as the cause. And the eye strain / pain issue went away. If those GPUs actually have undefeatable dithering built into their output, that would be a terrible design flaw. It's the pain of something flashing pretty fast in front of me, and while alot of people claim that dithering only flickers between 2 colors just like 2% apart, and it shouldn't cause strain. Something went wrong while trying to load the full version of this site. From a reliability and performance perspective I wouldn't want to but this is too much, for a daily computer for creative work. The term dither was published in books on analog computation and hydraulically controlled guns shortly after World War II. It could be also that since the GPU in the M-series is relatively new, the driver writers did not bother to expose the color depth option to the OS. Less, User profile for user: The condition requires urgent medical attention in order to reduce the risk of such complications. Panels that are 6bit+frc or 8bit+frc utilize this technique correct? Temporal Dithering is when a graphics card has more colors than a display panel can support (eg. No promises . Disabling dithering enabled by default can be done to get the best quality for 8 bits or higher displays or to mitigate eye strain. Is possible to develop a beta graphic. Looks like no ones replied in a while. sexynerds, Aug 27, 2020 7:26 AM in response to Astrolabium, call I found a post on Internet that indicates poor dithering algorithm would cause eye strain: Is this dithering noticeable? Holy Cow those videos are enlightening to me. Or maybe it would be good to petition to have this condition officially recognized as a disability. First public demo of FastLED (v2.1) "Temporal Dithering". Somehow I was able to get the Dell factory image (Win 10) re-installed. Hopefully we can figure out a solution for this together soon! You can get eyestrain from staring at any screen or any thing for long periods. I have no idea what else could be causing the eye strain. I have a Late 2019 MBP 16" and I am experiencing very similar symptoms and issues. A method and system for temporal dithering of pixels in a display 14. The dithering encodes each brightness value uniquely and may be used in conjunction with virtually any active vision . I think temporal dithering is actually a bigger problem for my brain than pwm. I also don't understand how a refresh rate of 60 Hz would lead to just 30 Hz polarity inversion (shouldn't it be 60 Hz, too?). Muscle relaxants. Which makes it hard to know if that means on or off. I will frequently update this thread with resources and interesting finds. It's like all the muscles in my faces and back have gotten frozen from pain, and it's been almost a week since I pulled the card out. Another solution I have heard mentioned is the idea of rolling back your Mac OS to a version that is pre 2017 which is when this started by most user responses and theories. Maybe we could amend it to include other vendors and devices, not just Apple, and it would be good to include phones too. NVIDIA actually claims that dithering is disabled in windows, but it definitely isn't. provided; every potential issue may involve several factors not detailed in the conversations Is anyone else suffering from the same experience and knows of a way to prevent this dithering? I am 31, never had glasses, consider myself to have great vision and after a few minutes or prolonged use on the MBP 16" my vision starts deteriorating in a very scary way. vinkenvvt Did you remove the link of the linux kernel source for Intel graphics driver? More The purpose of this post is to raise awareness, help each other, and unify our voice regarding the (alleged) adverse health effects of temporal dithering. Painful to look at after a few minutes. Is anyone else suffering from the same experience and knows of a way to prevent this dithering? Although, all the people with this issue seem to have had an untrue 8bit monitor (6bit+FRC). Dispersed dot ordered dither l c The term ordered dither refers to . omissions and conduct of any third parties in connection with or related to your use of the site. Missing color values are represented by two adjacent color values arranged in a specific grid. One of the major causes of eyestrain. If you only can distinguish the bright levels of the left and right parts in Picture2, than it should be a 6-bit with spacial-dithering technique. JTL I did my research and a few people blamed temporal dithering of being the culprit. Yes, they did this when display is 6 bit (or 18 bit), that causes eyestrain. Spatial, Spatio-Temporal (a.k.a. Ledstrain.org.This domain provided by namesilo.com at 2015-08-27T01:55:38Z (6 Years, 324 Days ago), expired at 2026-08-27T01:55:38Z (4 Years, 40 Days left). Make sure that you're not using FRC on your monitor (e.g. I signed the change.org petition and will be posting it to other forums. Common among my screens were no dithering at 255,255,255 white, but dithering at all other shades and colors. ), https://ledstrain.org/d/1048-new-graphics-card-rtx-3090-gives-eyestrain/2, https://ledstrain.org/d/1524-eye-strain-with-new-gpu. I got terrible eye strain and headaches from using the computer for a few hours. I can't really do proper research into this topic myself as I don't have a capture card (and ones that can capture raw RGB output are pretty expensive), but I really hope that you can find a solution. I came across this thread on the subject: It seems that dithering is enabled by default in Intel graphics drivers, and that there is no way for a user to disable / toggle it. Either way, you should be able to turn it off completely in novideo_srgb. No issues with eye strain / pain. Further meaning those two could interfere with each other On Linux, we have other choices for drivers (like modesetting or fbdev). This seems to be the case with Apple's M-series computers because if earlier there was an option to switch from "Billions of colors" to "Millions of colors" by using Stepane Madrau's SwitchResX then now it just shows "Billions of colors" as the only option:https://ledstrain.org/d/1797-switchresx-developer-m1-mac-does-not-allow-8-bit-color. They just dither anyway. Can't even find any place saying what it's bit depth is. It seems this dithering thing has started to get implemented since the start of the RTX lineup. One of the suspect of the cause of the eye strain is dithering / temporal dithering. From what I understand Temporal Dithering seems to be the issue. Apple support advised me to leave feedback. I'd be interested in hearing what others think, and most importantly if anyone has caputred the snow artifact on camera, or whatnot, Just saw this on the FreeBSD forums (seems the technical people there are misguided about the problem), https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/eye-strain-from-certain-video-modes-drivers.53468/, Hi, a simple explanation about what dither is: bjango.com/articles/1pxisnotenough/, http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Dithering/. Biofeedback if clenching related. For example AUO 18 bit TFT Panels have an unpleasant "flashing" effect due to a poor dithering algorithm. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question. So temporal dithering or Frame Rate Control(FRC) is a technique where pixels are flashed between 2 different colors to simulate a 3rd color correct? When . Thanks! Temporal arteritis causes the arteries, particularly those at the temples to become swollen and inflamed. Though he did not use the term dither, the concept of dithering to reduce quantization patterns was first applied by Lawrence G. Roberts in his 1961 MIT master's thesis and 1962 article. The eye strain will reduce and also your migraine. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question. )" function, use "FastLED.delay (.)". chromatic pattern inuences the temporal sensitivity . 1-800-MY-APPLE, or. Google. It could be also that since the GPU in the M-series is relatively new, the driver writers did not bother to expose the color depth option to the OS. I really doubt it's an 8bit though, judging by how old it is. The NEC 2490 is okay as far as eye strain goes, at least to me. When I bought it it was fine. Temporal arteritis can cause serious complications and can have a severe effect on the eyes and visual field. Subjects had to perform 'visually demanding' tasks for 30 minutes at a time on 32" monitors of varying . 1.Disable dithering -> shut down -> turn on PC -> enable dithering = 100% success. Display color temperature is another major issue. Site is running on IP address 172.64.80.1, host name 172.64.80.1 ( United States) ping response time 3ms Excellent ping.Current Global rank is 5,421,398, site estimated value 396$ Temporal Dithering eyestrain / fatigue Hi all, The purpose of this post is to raise awareness, help each other, and unify our voice regarding the (alleged) adverse health effects of temporal dithering. There are some of us that are worried we won't be able to work in a few years because of this. , For example I believe many desktop TN panels implement dithering in hardware, such as my old ASUS monitor that I ran at high brightness to mitigate PWM, it gave me no other problems in the two years of using it before it's failure, although I sometimes could see a slight snow effect on certain backgrounds which doesn't seem to manifest on my Macbook (maybe because have higher resolution/better implementation on Samsung panel/different GPU setup?). A pixel clock of half a billion pixels per second is 12 gigabits per second at 24-bits (8+8+8) but only 8 gigabits per second at 18-bits (6+6+6). Basically all my monitors dither. It also does nothing in reducing the pain. Would using an 8 or 10 bit monitor make any difference? Do you know if anyone has done a capture of the output like that with RGB range set to full and/or dithering being set to disabled? b) My vision being too poor to notice Thread starter siksik6; Start date Jun 20, 2022; Forums. For example a 6bit display can approximately emulate 8bit colors by temporal dithering (the screen switches very fast between two adjacent color values, thus the flickering) If it is left untreated, it can cause . How does Dell disable temporal dithering with the Intel Iris graphics? As far as I understand this is graphics card based. Question: It looks as if this eyestrain thing is becoming more and more common as people vulnerable to temporal dithering like us are more and more surrounded by devices which employ this technique which is destroying our eyes. Previously in a material I would use Pixel Depth Offset and Dither Temporal AA to blend objects as seen here. If you only can see the middle demarcation between the left part and the right part in Picture1, then it's either a true 8-bit panel or a 6-bit with FRC (also called temporal-dithering) panel. I encourage people to dismiss anyone who provides any non-constructive feedback like go see a doctor, or adjust the resolution or brightness. But with MBA 2022 it does not seem to work but instead full brightness lowers the eyestrain on this model for me, whereas with MBP 2019 the brightness did not affect but lowering the color depth with SwitchResX did. I discovered that the video card the hypervisor is showing to the guest virtual machine is usually pretty basic with 8-bit color depth. So I am assuming these apps are only disabling the monitor's own dithering. Since the card can do 10 bits I am worried that only a true 10bit monitor might stop it. Other symptoms of eye inflammation may include as follows: . It's not perfect, as it does have an AG coating, but it's not a super duper heavy IPS coating. It seems that NVIDIA has implemented some sort of temporal Dithering in all its RTX cards, and it's causing me severe eye strain and pain. Astrolabium, User profile for user: Thanks, and please share any experiences, solutions, or leads. Algorithms 3.1. Setting to Full RGB only seems to change the dithering algorithm, and it's nowhere close to getting rid of the strain. I heard eyestrain complains from users already in 2013 but I never experienced it myself until I got Macbook Pro 16" in 2020. It would explain why I was able to use OLED Android phones for years. Does it use Intel Graphics, or NVidia or AMD video? From what users have mentioned, PC versions/builds running a comperable graphics card can have temporal dithering disabled but on mac OS it cannot be. If I do not find a clear cut solution to end this issue, I may have to sell off this device. I placebo'd thru it for a while and now have returned to the topic. A search for "dithering" on Android source code shows several results. 3.Forget to disable dithering -> shut down -> turn on PC -> dithering success is depend on luck. The latter also implies that the rendered image should always look slightly different from the previous image independent of the camera frame (so even if the camera is fixed). The only issues is they offer a solution involving some sort of enterprise based hardware/software solution. Maybe there are other settings that need to be changed? Not an issue with blue lights or something fixable by "night mode". When I was talking to the head of displays for Apple, he mentioned the fact that laptop displays have more pins compared to let's say HDMI or VGA because they are just "dumb" panels that can't do much on their own, relies on external driver/controller board to handle brightness/PWM/connect to GPU, etc. They checked how it's done and said Nouveau's temporal dithering option is always disabled, except for laptop type displays. Is anyone else suffering from the same experience and knows of a way to fully prevent this dithering? To the brain the result is the same but to the eyes, for some people, like us, it creates strain. I got really scared because it felt like I was blind while I could actually see (really hard to explain). 2- your computer model. My strategy right now is - either to use external monitor, or to buy laptop with radeon. 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